Shaykh Muḥammad b. al-Ḥasan al-Ṭūsī · Objections of the opponents with regard to the birth of Imam Mahdi (a.s)
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فإن قيل: قد مضى في كلامكم أنا نعلم موت موسى بن جعفر عليهما السلام كما نعلم موت أبيه وجده عليهما السلام فعليكم لقائل أن يقول: إنا نعلم أنه لم يكن للحسن بن علي ابن كما نعلم أنه لم يكن له عشرة بنين وكما نعلم أنه لم يكن للنبي صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم ابن لصلبه عاش بعد موته. فإن قلتم لو علمنا أحدهما كما نعلم الآخر لما جاز أن يقع فيه خلاف كما لا يجوز أن يقع الخلاف في الآخر. قيل لمخالفكم أن يقول ولو علمنا موت محمد بن الحنفية وجعفر بن محمد وموسى بن جعفر عليهم السلام كما نعلم موت محمد بن علي بن الحسين عليهما السلام لما وقع الخلاف في أحدهما كما لم يجز أن يقع في الآخر.
Objection: It was mentioned in your discourse that we know the death of Musa Ibn Ja’far, just as we know the death of his father and grandfather. In the same way, one can say: We know that Hasan Ibn Ali Askari did not have a son, just as we know he did not have ten sons, just as we know that the Messenger of Allah (s) did not have a son, who outlived him. If you reply to the objection and say that if we knew the former of the two the same way as we know the second, it would be impossible to have a disagreement on the former, just as it is impossible to disagree on the second; your opponent can also say that if we knew about the death of Muhammad Ibn Hanafiyyah, Ja’far Ibn Muhammad and Musa Ibn Ja’far in the same manner, we know the death of Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Husain [Baqir], there would not be any dispute in the former just as it is not possible to have a difference on the latter.
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