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Shia hadith/Al-Kāfi 1

Al-Kāfi 1, record 243 of the digital edition

Shaykh Muḥammad b. Yaʿqūb al-Kulaynī · Chapter On Being and Space (al-Kawn WA al-Makan)

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Arabic text

8ـ عَلِيُّ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ زِيَادٍ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْوَلِيدِ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي نَصْرٍ عَنْ أَبِي الْحَسَنِ الْمَوْصِلِيِّ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ الله (عَلَيْهِ السَّلام) قَالَ أَتَى حِبْرٌ مِنَ الاحْبَارِ أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ (عَلَيْهِ السَّلام) فَقَالَ يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ مَتَى كَانَ رَبُّكَ قَالَ وَيْلَكَ إِنَّمَإ؛ّّ يُقَالُ مَتَى كَانَ لِمَا لَمْ يَكُنْ فَأَمَّا مَا كَانَ فَلا يُقَالُ مَتَى كَانَ كَانَ قَبْلَ الْقَبْلِ بِلا قَبْلٍ وَبَعْدَ الْبَعْدِ بِلا بَعْدٍ وَلا مُنْتَهَى غَايَةٍ لِتَنْتَهِيَ غَايَتُهُ فَقَالَ لَهُ أَ نَبِيٌّ أَنْتَ فَقَالَ لامِّكَ الْهَبَلُ إِنَّمَا أَنَا عَبْدٌ مِنْ عَبِيدِ رَسُولِ الله (صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِه )

Translation

8. Ali ibn Muhammad has narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad from Muhammad ibn al-Walid from ibn Abu Nasr from Abul Hassan al-Muwsali who has narrated the following from Abu ‘Abdallah (a.s.): “A rabbi came to Imam Ali (a.s.) and asked, ‘O Amirul Mu’minin, when did your Lord come into existence?’” Imam Ali (a.s.) replied, “Consider carefully. The question when applies to one who did not exist (and then came into being). When does not apply to the One Who is eternal. He was before the before without before and after the after without an after. He is not the end of some end so that His end would also end.” He then asked, “Are you a prophet?” Imam Ali (a.s.) replied, “Bereft of you be your mother! I am a slave among the slaves of the Messenger of Allah (saww).”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — published with the edition, reproduced verbatim.

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Chain of narration (isnād)

  1. 8. Ali ibn Muhammad has narrated
  2. Sahl ibn Ziyad
  3. Muhammad ibn al-Walid
  4. ibn Abu Nasr
  5. Abul Hassan al-Muwsali who has narrated the following
  6. Abu ‘Abdallah (a.s.)

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  • Allamah Baqir al-Majlisi

    ضعيف

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    Mirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (1/316)

  • Shaykh Baqir al-Behbudi

    لم يخرجه

    Published in Arabic as the scholar wrote it. No reviewed English rendering exists yet.

    Ṣaḥīḥ al-Kāfī

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